Cummins with codes that will not clear – Diagnostic Network (2024)

NASTF is a cooperative effort among the automotive service industry, the equipment and tool industry and OEMs to ensure that independent automotive service professionals have the information, training, and tools needed to properly diagnose and repair today’s high tech vehicles. Corporate Partner

Matthew Mobile Technician Illinois Posted Latest Edited

Tech Tip Driveability Heavy Duty

2017 International 4300 6.7L (ISB 6.7)

3712

3714

I went to a shop last week to look at this truck, two codes were in the PCM and would not clear. The shop diagnosed the truck with a bad particulate sensor. The sensor was replaced and the code did not come back. The 3712 and 3714 codes however would not clear, and the engine was in derate mode. Below you can see the conditions for clearing the code:

3712 - Aftertreatment SCR Operator Inducement- Data Valid but Above Normal Operational Range- Most Severe Level

Conditions for Clearing the Fault Code This fault code will go inactive once all other active fault codes have been addressed. Refer to the appropriate fault code troubleshooting tree. The ECM will turn off the red STOP ENGINE lamp immediately after the diagnostic runs and passes.

3714 - Engine Protection Torque Derate- Condition Exists

Conditions for Clearing the Fault Code This fault code will go inactive once all other active fault codes have been addressed. Refer to the appropriate fault code troubleshooting tree. The ECM will turn off the amber CHECK ENGINE lamp immediately after the diagnostic runs and passes.

A regen and SCR test was performed post repair. All of the temps looked perfect and it passed all of the tests. The 3712 and 3714 still would not go away, there were absolutely no other codes. I have experienced this before, my simple minded explanation is that the codes are latched and there is a software issue. I decided to reflash the computer to the latest calibration. The codes were gone and everything was back to normal. If a reflash was not available, I would have still flashed the computer like an install and that would probably have the same effect. None of the calibrations cited this as an issue, so it was just a matter of uninstalling and reinstalling software, just like a PC or phone. I hope this helps someone out someday.

Private Reply

+8

Michael Mobile Technician

Utah

Michael

Thanks Matthew!

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

Edwin

Matthew based on my experience after running the scr test the codes should go from active to inactive after an extended idle for a minute or two once it goes inactive then you can clear the codes. The scr test has to pass of course.

Private Reply

+2

Ð Awarded

Matthew Mobile Technician

Illinois

Matthew

I did the test and it passed, no luck on this truck.

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

Edwin Mobile Technician

South Carolina

Edwin

I also have had one where i reflashed the ecm with the same cal file and it fixed it. It seems like the software gets corrupted and wont budge on a code clear

Mike Mobile Technician

New Jersey

Mike

Seen this twice. Reflashed got me mobile again. Thanks Edwin

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

Bentley Manager

California

Bentley

Thanks for the info!

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

Michael Diagnostician

Illinois

Michael

That's interesting, thanks for sharing. Sometimes I have had the same issue. Most of the time though after I have the vehicle up to operating temp I clear all the codes and it goes away.

Private Reply

+1

Ð Awarded

Jess Diagnostician

Wisconsin

Jess

I can't recall code number. But on some larger Cummins you have to go in and preform a dpf reset. Then you are able to clear code. Which you pretty much did reset when it was reflashed.

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

Austin Diagnostician

Pennsylvania

Austin

I know this is an old thread but I encountered this exact problem today. Very helpful thank you.

Private Reply

Ð Awarded

NASTF is a cooperative effort among the automotive service industry, the equipment and tool industry and OEMs to ensure that independent automotive service professionals have the information, training, and tools needed to properly diagnose and repair today’s high tech vehicles. Corporate Partner
Cummins with codes that will not clear – Diagnostic Network (2024)

References

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Trent Wehner

Last Updated:

Views: 6461

Rating: 4.6 / 5 (56 voted)

Reviews: 87% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Trent Wehner

Birthday: 1993-03-14

Address: 872 Kevin Squares, New Codyville, AK 01785-0416

Phone: +18698800304764

Job: Senior Farming Developer

Hobby: Paintball, Calligraphy, Hunting, Flying disc, Lapidary, Rafting, Inline skating

Introduction: My name is Trent Wehner, I am a talented, brainy, zealous, light, funny, gleaming, attractive person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.